Category Archives: Saving

How Much Did I Save Living At My In-Law’s?

I lived at my future in-law’s house for over 8 months. At first I was a little hesitant to make it a long-term commitment, but when I ran down the list of amazing amenities they had, it was hard not to agree. In addition to free rent, I didn’t have to cook my own meals, there was a washer and dryer in the house, and my daily commute was cut down by over 60%. And of course, I didn’t mind my fellow house members.

After 8 months, I decided it was time to move out. I am getting married in June and I thought it was time. I was settled, my job was stable, and I wanted to prepare and have everything set up before the wedding day.

So was it worth it? Heck yes. There were very few downsides, but how much did I really save? I’m not going to go into every detail of how much I saved on groceries and laundry costs, instead I’ll stick to the big items (surprised?) and do a lot of estimating.

Rent

This is obviously the big one. Two months ago, I moved into a 2 bedroom, 2 1/2 bathroom apartment for $1,800. It’s far from cheap, but by not paying that each of the last 8 months, you could argue that I saved $14,400 on rent!

However, I probably would have moved into a 1 bedroom apartment (since it would have been just me for nearly a year, part of the reason I got a 2 bedroom now is because we’ll want more space once we get married).

Let’s say I would have moved into a slightly more reasonable 1 bedroom apartment for those 8 months, costing me $1,300/month. That’s $10,400.

Still, I would have been committed to a 12 month lease, so over the course of the first year (July 2011-July 2012) I would have paid $15,600, while under my current arrangement, I will end up paying just $7,200 in rent over the same 12 month time frame.

The final number? About $8,400. Thanks Mark and Rachelle!

Utilities

This one is pretty easy to calculate, our costs for tv, electricity, and gas is about $130, so that’s another $1,040 in savings during those 8 months.

Groceries, Gas, Laundry, etc.

My commute was much shorter, I was buying fewer groceries, and with a laundry machine in the house, I never needed quarters. I’ll guess this came out to $150/month, for an additional $1,200.

There are other costs I saved on, but there were a few other higher costs (I was going out to dinner more often because I had fewer expenses, but I was driving farther on weekends), so I’m assuming they just about cancelled each other out.

In all, it comes out to over $10,500. I have $10,500 more in my bank account that wouldn’t have otherwise been there. That’s awesome! Let’s just pretend I invest that right now and don’t touch it until I’m 65 years old. As a 7% interest rate, that’s about $170,000 that I wouldn’t have otherwise have had. Score!

Readers, did any of you think I was crazy for living with my future in-laws? Now that you read the numbers, do you think it was worth it?

The Ideal Amount of Savings at Age 30

I love looking really far down the road. I love projecting account balances in the future, and I love the idea of compounding interest.

I also like making money today, I like having the ability to spend money on the things I want, and I have no problem paying a little extra for things if I can afford it. I hate stress, so if a few dollars saves me from worrying, it’s money well spent.

So I thought about, in order to retire comfortably at age 66, I’d need $4 million. Why that much? Because it’s such a huge number, that even with inflation and everything, there’s no way I could ever need more than that. It’s very possible I won’t need that much. But I know that in 40 years, if I have $4 million in savings, there’s no way I won’t have enough money for everything I’ll want.

So working backwards, I realized that at an 8% rate of return, I’d need $250,000 in savings by age 30 to hit that mark. If I earn 8% every year, I’d have $367,000 at age 35, $539,000 at age 40, $1.16 million at age 50, $2.5 million at age 60, and just about $4 million at age 66. The “normal” retirement age will probably increase in the next 40 years, so I’ll still be retiring early at age 66.

$250,000 is not an easy target to hit by 30, but the benefits are enormous.

There would be no need to save a dime the rest of your life. Once retirement is fully funded, there’s no need to save extra. As long as you earn as much as you spend, you can spend that money however you want. No more saving 20% for retirement, you can focus on education, the house, travel, or whatever else you’d like.

Instead of saving for huge goals, savings can go toward family vacations, education, and some of life’s pleasures. $250,000 is my goal for 30, and then that extra 20% (or more ideally, 60%) of income that goes to savings can go toward a house or kids.

Readers, what do you think? Is $250,000 a realistic goal? Are the benefits enormous enough to make it worth it?

Would You Ever Move Into Your In-Laws’ House?

When I quit my job for the greener pastures of California, I had a very vague plan: I would stay with my fiancee at her parents’ house for a little bit, until I got a car, a job, and an apartment. I was making a major move and getting a little help definitely wouldn’t hurt while I got settled.

The Plan That Wasn’t

I didn’t have much of a timeline, but after about 3 weeks I realized that getting a job wasn’t going to be as simple as wanting one. Also, after “crunching” one number, I found out that by temporarily staying with the future in-laws, I was saving about $1,300 a month. There were very few incentives to look for a job.

But, I had a future to consider and people were starting to tell me that ‘chilling’ was not a long-term plan. It sounded like a good life to me, I don’t know what all the concern was about. I had blog income coming in and basically no expenses. Still, I was able to find myself a job, probably based on lucky timing more than anything else.

I’m Moving Out…Not!

Well, I got a car and a job, so it was time to move out, right? Not so fast. There were a few reasons why moving out didn’t make sense:

  1. Staying where I was meant $1,300 could go towards our wedding this coming June or possibly a future house.
  2. My fiancee’s brother just went abroad for a year, so I was no longer an extra body. I was the replacement son.
  3. My job was about 15 minutes from home as opposed to an hour drive from my proposed new apartment in the city. And my office was moving to somewhere with a little bit more reasonable of a commute in about 3-4 months, so maybe that would be a better time to move.

Why You Should Live With Your Parents

After some very gentle prodding, I agreed to stay for a few more months. While I try and pitch in any way I can, I feel a lot like a freeloader. Still, any way I cut it, the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.

At my disposal I have a pool, a jaccuzi, my own room, my own bathroom, a fully stocked refrigerator, a personal chef (my fiancee who is a much better cook than I), a 46 inch HDTV, free laundry, free parking, and a bunch of hand-me-down shirts from her brother that are just my size. Basically, I am living the dream.

Readers, what would you do if you were in my position? Would you move out as soon as possible? Or enjoy the nice features of a house while you could?

Saving Money on Gas Isn’t Always Worth It

There’s an ARCO gas station right by my office that has the lowest advertised prices in the area. It’s always at least 2-3 cents cheaper than the next best place and a solid 7-9 cents lower than what I can find close to home.

The funny thing is that even with the great price, the ARCO station is not my first choice when I fill up at.

Why?

It starts with the 45 cent charge for using a debit card. That sucks and adds another 3-4 cents per gallon each time I fill up.

So why not just pay in cash and get the best rate? Because remembering to take cash out of the ATM each week just to have a bunch of change in my car does not appeal to me!

Even when paying with cash, I still think the smart move is to avoid the station. I’ll use an example to show you why:

At the ARCO station, gas is $3.69 (and 9/10ths of a cent, everyone seems to forget that that means the price is much closer to $3.70 than $3.69) while the 76 station 3 blocks away sells gas for $3.71 (and 9/10ths).

Paying with cash for 12 gallons at the ARCO station costs $44.39 while the debit transaction at the station costs $44.84, a true rate of $3.736, so about 3.5 cents more per gallon.

At the 76 station, 12 gallons cost $44.63, which is better than the cost of using a debit card to pay at the ARCO station.

But there’s one more advantages to going with the 76 station: you can use your credit card, which for me means 1% rewards (and maybe more for you!).

When factoring in the rebate I’ll get, the price drops to $44.18 for a true price of $3.68, even cheaper than the cash price at ARCO!

There are two lessons to be learned here:

1. We’re talking about very small amounts of money. It’s about 15 cents, so maybe a dollar a month at most. Not really a budget buster in my book. Don’t sweat it, choose the station that’s most convenient.

2. Be aware that things aren’t always the way they seem. Sure, cheap gas is great, but guess what? Advertisements aren’t always so cut and dry. The “cheapest” gas wasn’t really so, and when you add in the hassle, it’s actually a much worse deal!

Readers, do you always go with the cheapest option for gas? Would you pay in cash to save 20 cents or is the hassle not worth the savings?