Category Archives: Investing

How to Earn Superior Returns with Lending Club

Being average is not that impressive. To be better than average is always an admirable goal, and as a Lending Club borrower, there are some easy steps we can take to get the high returns we’re looking for.

The average default rate on lending club loans varies by grade (A-G, As have low interest rates but low default rates while Gs have 20%+ interest rates along with higher default rates). Lending Club boasts an annualized default rate of less than 3% across all loans.

Defaults reduce your returns significantly, so a large part of selecting loans is trying to determine which loans are least likely to default. While high interest loans are great, if a loan defaults, you probably only get back a fraction of the amount of money that you originally lent. If you spread this logic across all loans, you’ll see why reducing the default rate in your portfolio is so important.

For example, the average interest rate for E-rated loans is 17.36%, while the default rate is about 7.3% over the life of a loan. Defaults don’t mean you receive no money at all, just that after a certain period of time, the borrower stops making payments. Therefore, the average person who invests only in E-rated loans can expect to receive a return of 11.88%.

The goal is to select notes that I think have a lower than average chance of defaulting. That way, the loans would achieve a higher than average interest rate, and when you’re talking about higher than an 11.88% average, you’re doing pretty well.

By simply weeding out the lower quality loans, I’m trying to leave myself with the high quality stuff and a superior return. I decided to try lending club with a Roth IRA recently, and I am aiming to return greater than 13%, which is fantastic when compared the the stock market and especially to other investments during this recession.

If I see loans that has warning signs (we’ll get into that in next week’s post, but one example is a borrower who says they’re “hoping” that they will be able to pay back on time each month), I stay away. I try and predict whether that person will be likely to default and if I see anything that makes me think they are more likely to not be able to make payments, then I will pass and move on to what I believe are more worthy borrowers.

However, I think that it is a very reasonable goal because it’s based on past lending performance (which should be much less volatile overall than the stock market), and the statistics back up my theories. Only time will tell how well I do, but several other bloggers have achieved 13%+ returns and my brother, who has been investing for awhile now, has seen great results and even a few defaults wouldn’t lower his existing returns too much.

Next week, I’ll go into detail on how I select my loans and what criteria I use to weed out the low quality loans. We’ll be tracking my progress each month, so we’ll get a feel for how this strategy works, what trends I see, any advice I have going forward.

Why It’s So Difficult To Make Money In The Stock Market

An Unemployed College Graduate’s Irrelevant Opinion

This is a post written by Avishai Shuter, and up-and-coming zoologist who lives in his parents house while waiting to hear back from the Bronx Zoo.

About a two years ago, I decided I wanted to get some experience in the market. After doing some research, I created a TD Ameritrade online account (they were the first company that didn’t require a Social Security card for signup, and as a college student away from home, I didn’t have mine) and bought $1,000 worth of stocks. Two years later, my portfolio is worth about the same as a result of significant losses but equally significant gains. So what have I learned?

Why Casual Traders Get Hammered

The stock market wasn’t designed for college kids with $1,000 to wager, and as a result, isn’t especially friendly towards them. I started investing, as many people do (whether they admit it or not), fantasizing about stumbling onto a stock that would make me millions overnight. But, I quickly learned, it simply doesn’t work that way. In order to make real money in the stock market, you need to start off by investing a sizable amount.

Starting with $1,000 simply won’t do it. The expensive stocks of well-known companies don’t have swings as large as smaller, less reliable companies do. So I could have taken my money and bought two shares of apple, thereby risking about $600 in order to make about $30, in addition to the $9 a trade I was being charged (this was an actual scenario when I first started out). And even if it wouldn’t be the riskiest move in the world, it would have been a waste of time. In order to justify that type of investment and time, I would have needed to invest way more at the get go.

Unless you have the money to buy a few hundred or few thousand shares of Coke, or Apple, or Google, where strong returns are as close to a guarantee as you get in this business, it just isn’t worth it. So why do casual traders get hammered? Because they’re casual. They simply aren’t putting up the money needed to make back money they could potentially live off of.

The House Always Wins

You know why joe-shmoes don’t make millions in the stock market? Because they don’t put millions in. In a system which is essentially complicated gambling, many of the big players are also making the rules. And, same as in a casino, the house rarely loses. Casual traders simply aren’t privy to the information required to make decisions resulting in million dollar returns, nor the bankrolls required to take advantage of the information even if they had it.

So what’s the main thing I learned?

The main thing I took away from this learning experience is that in order to make a significant amount of money in the stock market with the stock of giant, dependable companies, you better have the money and the will to buy a few thousand shares.

Otherwise, I just can’t see the justification for buying those types of stocks. On Wall Street, it seems to me that casual equals increased risk or don’t even bother. But I’m by no means an expert. Happy investing.

Lending Club PRIME: Concierge Service

During our inaugural Yakezie Tweetchat a few weeks ago, we were talking about social lending and P2P loans. I love the idea of choosing my own loans based on the criteria I’ve been developing so I can get the lowest default rate and a higher return on my loans, but active investing isn’t for everyone.

Sam from Financial Samurai asked if there was an amount he could invest to get “concierge service.”

As it turns out, this type of service is offered at very low balances at Lending Club. Sam assumed (and I did too) that in order to get someone to do the investing for you that it would be only for investors with big balances, but that’s not the case.

For Lending Club, it’s called Lending Club PRIME.

Lending Club PRIME is a full service account for investors with at least $5,000 to invest. That’s not much for a service that does all the investing work for you. All you do is choose the rough interest rate of the loans you want to invest in (high, medium, or low risk loans) and then Lending Club does the rest. There is nobody there to filter your loans for you, so you can’t be choosy about not lending to someone looking for over $30,000 to start a business, but your money will be invested into a diverse group of loans based on the interest rate you attempt to get.

Everything about the PRIME account is the same as a regular account in that you can always log in and check your returns and notes, but you don’t do the investing, Lending Club does it for you. The fees associated with the PRIME account come via a one-time 0.8% of the initial investment. On the minimum $5,000 to open a PRIME account, that comes out to $40. Not bad for those who don’t want to actively manage their loans.

At the beginning, this is actually very similar to the ‘Build a Portfolio’ feature offered. That feature takes your balance and automatically invests it in notes based on the rough interest rate you choose.

So why go with the PRIME account if you can get the same feature with the click of a button? There’s one major difference: when you start to receive payments from these loans, your account balance grows but the money just sits in your account until it gets invested in new loans. Well, if you don’t like logging into your account each week (or day depending on your balance) to invest in new loans, the PRIME account could be exactly what you’re looking for.

With $5,000, you’ll receive about $10 a day, so logging in each week or two to pick new loans isn’t terribly time consuming. But an account with a $50,000 balance will bring in about $100 a day, so the account would likely need to be maintained more often to avoid having money sitting in an account without earning interest. For those with larger balances, the PRIME account makes a lot of sense and is likely the way to go, especially considering the relatively low cost to start and the fact that there are no future costs associated with the account.

Don’t forget that Lending Club is still offering up to 2% bonus on initial investments!

Lending Club Investor and Borrower Requirements

As I stated last week, one of the reasons I moved to California was so that I could start a Lending Club IRA account and start lending money in the P2P network. For some reason, Washington, D.C. decided to be unreasonable and have not approved social lending for its citizens.

It’s my strong opinion that I should be allowed to invest my money the way I want to, so I hated that people in other states had an additional fantastic investment vehicle and that my investment choices were limited.

P2P Lending Requirements

For those wondering, only residents from the following states may invest with Lending Club:
CA, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, ID, IL, KY, LA, ME, MN, MO, MS, MT, NH, NV, NY, RI, SC, SD, UT, VA, WA, WI, WV, and WY.

Just 28 out of 51 (including DC) states. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me, I haven’t heard a good argument for NOT allowing peer to peer lending, but during a recent Yakezie Tweetchat that I hosted, we got some nice feedback, and it turns out there are some (still weak) explanations for why certain states don’t allow social lending.

I tried looking into other ways to enjoy P2P lending while living in D.C. and I thought I could try Lending Club’s Note Trading Platform (where you are allowed to buy already existing notes) yet again, there was a roadblock.

FOLIOfn Requirements

The restrictions on investing using Lending Club’s FOLIOfn note trading platform are far fewer and offers hope to many people who would not otherwise qualify.

Only people living in the District of Columbia, Kansas, Maryland, Ohio, Oregon, and Vermont are not eligible to become trading members with FOLIOfn. That’s a nice improvement to 45 out of 51 eligible states, but it still didn’t help my specific situation, so I just had to wait it out until moving to the Best Coast West Coast.

P2P Borrowing Requirements

I got curious to what requirements there were to borrow money (in my mind, it’s pretty hard not to allow people to seek out the lowest interest rates they could get, but sure enough, some states have done it), and while there are specific requirements such as minimum credit scores (660 for Lending Club), and a certain credit history, only 8 states don’t allow P2P borrowing yet, and they are Iowa, Idaho, Indiana, Maine, Mississippi, North Dakota, Nebraska, and Tennessee. It’s wonderful that D.C. residents aren’t exlcuded from this

Readers, Do you use Lending Club or another peer to peer lending program? If your state doesn’t allow it, would you if you could?